What Happened After Jemar Tisby Started A Network for Black Christians?

Jemar Tisby. Illustration by Ryan McQuade/Sojourners.

Full disclosure: It’s entirely possible you wouldn’t be reading this interview right now if not for its subject. Let me explain.

In 2013, Jemar Tisby and Phillip Holmes, co-founder of the organization then known as the Reformed African American Network, started a podcast called Pass the Mic.

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An image of the November 2026 issue of Sojourners, titled "Face to Face." It features George Lakey on the cover
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