Yes, I have always wondered how these claims for 'the face of Jesus in X' can be justified when no-one knows what he looked like!
Seriously though, your comment about the 'holy dirt' - "Is God more or less there than somewhere else? Is there something about the experience that opens us up to the already-present God? Is it an example of the uncharted power of the human mind?" - got me thinking about Lourdes (in France) where again there are huge numbers of 'no-longer-needed' crutches etc. I think you might have hit on something in the second of the questions - that we are effectively more open to God's power in these places because there is more of an expectation that it will be manifested there. Whether that also says something about the human mind is another question!
A small point, but you say 'Paul knew the stories of the Hebrew scripture...... retelling and reimagining the stories for an audience — the early Christians — who also knew the stories from their oral tradition.'
Actually the people Paul was writing to were mostly Gentiles, who would NOT have known the Hebrew scriptures from their oral tradition
Fraser is right. It is a very sad day for the church. Unfortunately I think it was a loose-loose situation, and the authorities had got themselves in a position where there was no alternative. And I am not sure it was their fault they were in that position either... I do feel that the 'occupy' protesters could have negotiated to say in fewer numbers so they were not an obstruction, for example...
The US military, who want to keep going in Afghanistan, determined to have more men shot? I doubt it.
The capitalists who have invested in munitions factories? Possibly, but would they be in a position to do it?
Insurgents who have infiltrated the base and deliberately burned copies? I suspect this is actually the most likely answer - assuming any actually WERE burned in the first place!
What is even more likley (IMO) is that the guy in the 'clean-up' department who 'spotted' the incinerated remains of a copy of the Quran was an insurgent who fabricated the evidence to discredit the NATO forces. Either way, it is meat & drink to opponents of the NATO forces...
While I do not agree with his stand, he did not deserve this, and nor did his wife. I wonder if it was a 'domestic' issue though as opposed to a 'religious' disagreement with his son (if indeed it was him ...)
As you say - may they rest in peace and may God comfort thos who mourn
And it is happening again with the so-called 'war on terror'....
What astounds me is the (alleged) ignorance of the Americans east of the Rockies that this happened. It was in your own country that this happened. The rest of the world knows all about it and your own citizens don't??? - Or is it more a case of being so embarrased that you wilfully deny the knowledge?
for example my father was a deeply committed Christian, but was also a carreer soldier. I can't square that circle, but that does not mean he was wrong...
The problem is likely to be in the wording. It seems strange to me that a compromise could not be reached. However I do agree that a wording which implies that it would be the sick person's fault if they are not cured, or that a "physical" cure is the norm rather than the exception is deeply misleading & wrong. God can cure people, but it is He who decides if this is going to happen, not us!
And may we become people who stand on the side of life — people who live in light of the cross where we can see that there is something worth dying for, but nothing in the world worth killing for.
"and unlike most humans and any woman, we hear, she was permitted into the Holy of Holies where she communed with the Angel Gabriel regularly.
This may be Orthodox tradition, but it is highly unlikely if you know anything of the Jewish religion!
That aside, she clearly was a very religious person herself with a 'simple' but deep faith in God, otherwise she would not have said yes, knowing it would likely lead to ostracism and a very difficult life from them on... For this reason I also have often wondered how many girls had said no before she was asked - though I guess the response would have been known by God in advance so He would not have had Gabriel ask the others!
God's idea of blessing someone has been commented on by others in the past - I think it was Theresa of Avila who is reported to have said in prayer 'If this is how you treat your friends it is not surprising you have so few'...
As Scat says -relax. This comes from Fox News. Has anyone checked whether it is actually true in the first place?
On a different note, can the moderators of this site please do something about the, now far too frequent, posts like the one immediately above this, which is blatant spam advertising?
Just one small point - the priestly duties of the priest and levite would not be in Jerico but would have been completed in Jaerusalem at the temple...
Official rhetoric has helped fuel an escalation of tension between the United States and Iran. Do recent negotiations mark a change in direction, or just a temporary detour from the highway to military attack?
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Credit where it is due - it takes guts to finally admit you were as wrong as this and to bow out. May he continue to learn...
Yes, I have always wondered how these claims for 'the face of Jesus in X' can be justified when no-one knows what he looked like!
Seriously though, your comment about the 'holy dirt' - "Is God more or less there than somewhere else? Is there something about the experience that opens us up to the already-present God? Is it an example of the uncharted power of the human mind?" - got me thinking about Lourdes (in France) where again there are huge numbers of 'no-longer-needed' crutches etc. I think you might have hit on something in the second of the questions - that we are effectively more open to God's power in these places because there is more of an expectation that it will be manifested there. Whether that also says something about the human mind is another question!
A small point, but you say 'Paul knew the stories of the Hebrew scripture...... retelling and reimagining the stories for an audience — the early Christians — who also knew the stories from their oral tradition.'
Actually the people Paul was writing to were mostly Gentiles, who would NOT have known the Hebrew scriptures from their oral tradition
Fraser is right. It is a very sad day for the church. Unfortunately I think it was a loose-loose situation, and the authorities had got themselves in a position where there was no alternative. And I am not sure it was their fault they were in that position either... I do feel that the 'occupy' protesters could have negotiated to say in fewer numbers so they were not an obstruction, for example...
Taylor-made, quite possibly, but by whom?
The US military, who want to keep going in Afghanistan, determined to have more men shot? I doubt it.
The capitalists who have invested in munitions factories? Possibly, but would they be in a position to do it?
Insurgents who have infiltrated the base and deliberately burned copies? I suspect this is actually the most likely answer - assuming any actually WERE burned in the first place!
What is even more likley (IMO) is that the guy in the 'clean-up' department who 'spotted' the incinerated remains of a copy of the Quran was an insurgent who fabricated the evidence to discredit the NATO forces. Either way, it is meat & drink to opponents of the NATO forces...
While I do not agree with his stand, he did not deserve this, and nor did his wife. I wonder if it was a 'domestic' issue though as opposed to a 'religious' disagreement with his son (if indeed it was him ...)
As you say - may they rest in peace and may God comfort thos who mourn
And it is happening again with the so-called 'war on terror'....
What astounds me is the (alleged) ignorance of the Americans east of the Rockies that this happened. It was in your own country that this happened. The rest of the world knows all about it and your own citizens don't??? - Or is it more a case of being so embarrased that you wilfully deny the knowledge?
for example my father was a deeply committed Christian, but was also a carreer soldier. I can't square that circle, but that does not mean he was wrong...
and most (if not all) other governments!
The problem is likely to be in the wording. It seems strange to me that a compromise could not be reached. However I do agree that a wording which implies that it would be the sick person's fault if they are not cured, or that a "physical" cure is the norm rather than the exception is deeply misleading & wrong. God can cure people, but it is He who decides if this is going to happen, not us!
And may we become people who stand on the side of life — people who live in light of the cross where we can see that there is something worth dying for, but nothing in the world worth killing for.
A big AMEN to this!
As in so many instances, a case of 'Beware of what you ask God to do.'!
"and unlike most humans and any woman, we hear, she was permitted into the Holy of Holies where she communed with the Angel Gabriel regularly.
This may be Orthodox tradition, but it is highly unlikely if you know anything of the Jewish religion!
That aside, she clearly was a very religious person herself with a 'simple' but deep faith in God, otherwise she would not have said yes, knowing it would likely lead to ostracism and a very difficult life from them on... For this reason I also have often wondered how many girls had said no before she was asked - though I guess the response would have been known by God in advance so He would not have had Gabriel ask the others!
God's idea of blessing someone has been commented on by others in the past - I think it was Theresa of Avila who is reported to have said in prayer 'If this is how you treat your friends it is not surprising you have so few'...
As Scat says -relax. This comes from Fox News. Has anyone checked whether it is actually true in the first place?
On a different note, can the moderators of this site please do something about the, now far too frequent, posts like the one immediately above this, which is blatant spam advertising?
Just one small point - the priestly duties of the priest and levite would not be in Jerico but would have been completed in Jaerusalem at the temple...
It has often been said that one gets the government one deserves....